15.2 From Becoming More Fully Human, an interview with Virginia Satir on Thinking Allowed with Dr. Jeffery Mishlove, 1998


SATIR: Yes, that's right. You know, I go around this world all the time. I go into all places, and I find the same thing everywhere -- fear of the unknown. And then, when people have some kind of beginning idea that they're not so terrible, that people are really quite nice, and they find that out -- then those fears that they had about what going into the unknown is, somehow disappear.

MISHLOVE: People are more willing to trust the unknown.

SATIR: Do you know what makes it possible for me to trust the unknown?

MISHLOVE: No.

SATIR: Because I've got eyes, ears, skin. I can talk, I can move, I can feel, and I can think. And that's not going to change when I go into a new context; I've got that. And then I give myself permission to say all my real yesses and no's, because I've got all those other possibilities, and then I can move anywhere. Why not?

MISHLOVE: In other words, you trust your own integrity, you trust your own resources, to carry you through new situations.

SATIR: Yes, because all I need is what I showed you -- those abilities to see and hear and think, feel, and touch, and to move and speak.

MISHLOVE: And ultimately, I suppose, it's your ability to feel what you feel, to say what you feel, to be real about that, that can keep you going in the most difficult situations.

SATIR: Well, for me it is, because that means I never have to say I know when I don't know; I never have to say yes when I feel no; I never have to say no when I feel yes. So I can keep all my energy in one place, and that makes it possible for me to be most effective in coping.
Mark